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They can't measure the code they generate, so they're left to guess at what performant software actually looks like.",[],{"_37":783,"_23":297,"_298":784,"_306":789,"_308":309},"b3f3fb752947",[785],{"_37":786,"_23":302,"_303":787,"_174":788},"55c6acd14a62",[],"“What LLMs need is a proper harness to measure performance, which is what we've built. We initially built this for humans, but now it works for agents as well. Essentially, we help the agents build a really simple harness around any kind of code, any kind of language, then let them query the data in a proper format.”",[],{"_37":791,"_23":297,"_298":792,"_306":797,"_308":309},"eb829686460b",[793],{"_37":794,"_23":302,"_303":795,"_174":796},"21e4735f443f",[],"Agents don’t collect or consume performance data in the same way humans do, but the team still needs to surface them for users. 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Even the world's foremost performance experts form a hypothesis from an observed code pattern, write the change, and validate it by measuring. Agents need that same measurement loop.",[],{"_37":815,"_23":297,"_298":816,"_306":821,"_308":309},"1d5e2c19a65f",[817],{"_37":818,"_23":302,"_303":819,"_174":820},"0056172ff12a",[],"“But then, there’s also a whole infrastructure play, which is much harder. You need to have isolated machines to run more-macro tasks.” Pastel explains that CodSpeed operates a fleet of bare-metal machines tuned for measurement stability spanning various hardware configurations, architectures (x86, ARM), and GPUs. Agents can request an instance on demand and run benchmarks in a completely isolated environment, on the hardware that matches their production target.",[],{"_37":823,"_23":297,"_298":824,"_306":829,"_308":309},"9fd19fa52749",[825],{"_37":826,"_23":302,"_303":827,"_174":828},"0744a7f99b8e",[],"Pastel also believes that the evolving economics of compute resources is constraining something that technical teams used to not consider a constraint at all: Available memory. “Just getting RAM now is getting harder. We never really took the time to optimize software in the past because it was super-easy to say, ‘My software is consuming a lot of RAM, but people will just get laptops with more memory, so it's completely fine. 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As hardware gains slow down, performance has to come from the software itself.",[855],{"_37":848,"_23":49,"_435":856},"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law",{"_37":858,"_23":297,"_298":859,"_306":864,"_308":309},"2ae83e65cbb0",[860],{"_37":861,"_23":302,"_303":862,"_174":863},"1986703dd040",[],"“We never really took the time to optimize software in the past because it was super-easy to say, ‘My software is consuming a lot of RAM, but people will just get laptops with more memory, so it's completely fine. 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Essentially, you can just have an agent tasked to migrate from one solution to another. I think this is why a lot of SaaS products are at risk, because we don’t have the strong lock-in and switching costs we had before.”",[],{"_37":898,"_23":297,"_298":899,"_306":904,"_308":309},"1880e1423ee5",[900],{"_37":901,"_23":302,"_303":902,"_174":903},"9ef7b647239d",[],"“So, performance is still a key differentiator, especially when you think about adoption and retention. 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- A Different Internet, Then And Now
- What Sentry Got Right Early
- Building The Sentry MCP Server
- Open Source and Fair Source
- Building for the AI Era
- How Sentry Uses Sentry
- Quick-Hit Questions
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