In episode 54 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie sit down with David Crawshaw. David shares how a weekend WireGuard experiment became Tailscale, and how a series of unsuccessful developer-tool experiments eventually became exe.dev. The conversation offers a candid look at product discovery, technical failure, cloud economics, and building infrastructure for AI agents.

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On episode 53 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Anurag Goel. Anurag shares his journey from early employee at Stripe to founder and CEO of Render, one of the fastest-growing application platforms in cloud infrastructure. They discuss Kubernetes, platform engineering, bare metal, AI agents, and what the future of application deployment looks like.

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On episode 52 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot speak with Hugo Santos. They discuss the evolution of Namespace Labs, why traditional cloud infrastructure isn't always optimized for developer workflows, and what it takes to build a vertically integrated platform for builds, testing, and developer productivity. Hugo also shares lessons learned from nearly a decade at Google and years of startup building.

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On episode 51 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Kyle Galbraith. Kyle shares the story behind Depot and explains how the company evolved from accelerating Docker builds into building an entirely new CI platform designed for the AI era. The conversation explores BuildKit internals, remote caching, microVMs, AWS infrastructure, and why modern software development may require rethinking CI from the ground up.

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On episode 50 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Ivan Burazin to explore the rise of sandbox environments for AI agents, how Daytona enables instant, stateful compute, and why traditional infrastructure models fall short. Ivan also shares lessons from building early cloud IDEs and finding product-market fit in the AI era.

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On episode 49 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Felipe Huici to explore how unikernels are reshaping modern cloud infrastructure. They discuss virtualization, containers, and how Unikraft enables millisecond startup times and massive workload density. The conversation dives deep into performance engineering, Kubernetes integration, and the infrastructure challenges emerging in the AI era.

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On episode 48 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Justin Cappos, professor at NYU and a pioneer in software supply chain security. They explore the origins of modern package manager security, the real-world limits of SBOMs, and why systems should be designed assuming compromise. The conversation spans CNCF governance, in-toto, TUF, Git security, and the emerging role of AI in securing software.

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In episode 47 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie sit down with Grant Miller, Founder and CEO of Replicated. This talk chronicles the triumphs and tribulations of Replicated and the many entrepreneurial lessons learned along the way. Grant and Marc also unveil SecureBuild, a new offering for open source projects. Lastly they share their firsthand experiences using AI-assisted coding tools and how they’re revolutionizing productivity.

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In episode 46 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie chat with John Dietz, CEO of Konstruct, about Kubefirst, an open source platform that streamlines Kubernetes adoption. John shares the journey of building Kubefirst, overcoming Kubernetes complexity, and the challenges of commercializing open source software.

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In this special episode of The Kubelist Podcast, recorded live at KubeCon 2024 in Salt Lake City, hosts Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot bring you seven engaging interviews with developers and contributors from the Kubernetes ecosystem. From CNCF projects like Testkube, Logging Operator, and Kubeflow to innovative tools like Buildpacks, Kairos, Krkn, and Scarf, this episode dives into the latest updates and insights.

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In episode 44 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Idit Levine, Founder and CEO of Solo.io, to explore the evolving world of service mesh technology. Idit shares her unconventional journey into tech, the founding of Solo, and innovations like Ambient Mesh that simplify Kubernetes networking. Dive into the challenges of microservices, open source collaboration, and the future of AI in networking.

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In episode 43 of The Kubelist Podcast, Kate Goldenring shares her journey from Microsoft, where she contributed to Kubernetes edge computing and the development of Akri, to joining Fermyon to work on serverless WebAssembly. She dives deep into the technical details of Spin and SpinKube, Fermyon's open-source tools for running serverless WebAssembly applications on Kubernetes. The conversation explores the potential of WebAssembly for building efficient, event-driven applications, and discusses how this technology can lead to more sustainable cloud solutions.

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In episode 42 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot sit down with Wayne Starr from Defense Unicorns to explore Zarf, an open-source tool for continuous software delivery in air-gapped environments. Wayne shares insights into how Zarf is transforming software deployment for the Department of Defense and beyond. They also explore other fascinating tools like Lula, Pepr, and LeapFrogAI.

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In episode 41 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Lukas Gentele of Loft Labs about vCluster. Together they dive deep on how vCluster works and some of the new use cases that the project enables when running on larger, more mature enterprises. This technical discussion explores the problems Lucas and his team set out to solve when they created vCluster.

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In episode 40 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with open source pioneer Dave McAllister. Dave shares stories and lessons from his 40-year career in tech including working for DEC, NASA, Adobe, Red Hat, Splunk, and NGINX. Additionally, they discuss Linux’s rise to popularity in the early days of open source, SGI’s contribution to modern cinematic effects, predictions around AI, and the overlap of open source and LLMs.

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In episode 39 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie recount their experience at KubeCon 2023 and share interviews from the event with guests like Matt Butcher and Radu Matei of Fermyon, Umair Khan of Stacklet, Anna Reale of Keptn, Solomon Hykes of Dagger, Bailey Hayes of wasmCloud, and many more.

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In episode 38 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Jussi Nummelin of Mirantis. This talk explores the accessibility and consistency of utilizing a Kubernetes distribution with zero dependencies. Other topics explored include the K0s project from Mirantis, the evolution of container management, and the advantages of control plane isolation.

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In episode 37 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Solomon Hykes about his new project, Dagger. This talk explores CI/CD in depth and examines the difficulties teams face when implementing it. Finally, Solomon looks back on the lessons he learned while building Docker and how they ultimately influenced the creation and trajectory of Dagger.

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In episode 36 of The Kubelist Podcast, Benjie and Marc speak with Solomon Hykes, founder of both Docker and Dagger. This conversation explores the early days of containers and the origins of Docker, including the many hurdles Docker overcame early on, its unexpected virality, and its continued prevalence among the developer community.

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In episode 35 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie are joined by Tom Preston-Werner. Tom shares insights gleaned from his open source journey including the founding of GitHub and his many side projects along the way. This talk explores themes on entrepreneurship, scaling, semantic versioning, dogfooding, and community building.

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In episode 34 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Kyle Quest and John Amaral of Slim.AI. This talk explores container security in depth, including insights on software supply chain security, vulnerability scanning, and the three principles of shipping a secure product.

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In episode 33 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Avery Pennarun of Tailscale. This conversation explores VPNs, mesh-overlay networks, Tailscale’s use cases, the relationship between scaling and architecture, and unparalleled lessons from Avery’s 20+ years in development.

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In episode 32 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Waldemar Hummer of LocalStack. This conversation focuses heavily on how LocalStack is emulating AWS services locally, speeding up the development cycle for cloud developers, and maintaining their large open source community.

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In episode 31 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Katrina Verey, Senior Staff Production Engineer at Shopify. This conversation examines Shopify's extensive adoption of Kubernetes, as well as the Kustomize project, a tool for addressing configuration management.

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In episode 30 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot speak with Thomas Graf, Co-Founder and CTO of Isovalent. This conversation includes a deep dive on eBPF, the origins of Cilium and the lessons learned while creating it in the open, and insights on kernel development.

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In episode 29 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Yevgeny Pats, CEO & Co-Founder of CloudQuery. They unpack Yevgeny’s career journey, the security and compliance space, and the open source CloudQuery project and its use cases. This talk offers evergreen lessons on entrepreneurship, information technology security, documentation practices for open source projects, and much more.

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In episode 28 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Michael Guarino about Plural, a scalable solution empowering DevOps teams to build and maintain cloud-native and production-ready OSS infrastructure on Kubernetes.

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In episode 27 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot are joined by Webb Brown of Stackwatch. Managing costs and performance-related tradeoffs has always been a difficult problem for users of Kubernetes, especially at scale. This talk spotlights Kubecost, a project offering real-time cost visibility and insights for teams using Kubernetes.

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In episode 26 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot speak with Tim Hockin, principle software engineer at Google and an originator of Kubernetes. This talk contains invaluable lessons from Tim’s storied career, the early days of Kubernetes, and insights on building and maintaining trust throughout the K8s community.

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In episode 25 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Nick Santos of Tilt, a toolkit for microservice development. They discuss developer productivity, the difference between build systems and dev environments, and the evolution of Tilt.

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In episode 24 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot speak with Jake Moshenko and Jimmy Zelinskie, Co-Founders of Authzed. They discuss the Google Zanzibar white-paper, the open source project SpiceDB, and the challenges faced when implementing authorization in modern applications.

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In episode 23 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot speak with Michelle Nguyen and Natalie Serrino about Pixie, a CNCF sandbox project that provides Kubernetes observability for developers.

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In episode 22 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc talks with Chandler Hoisington of AWS about EKS Anywhere. They explore the decisions made by the AWS team in building a Kubernetes distribution and how the project is helping make Kubernetes more ubiquitous.

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In episode 21 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot are joined by Taylor Thomas and Matt Butcher. Together they explore the WebAssembly ecosystem, the CNCF Sandbox project Krustlet, and how they’re pushing the limits of container runtime.

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In episode 20 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie are joined by Dan Lorenc of Google. They discuss supply chain security and the Sigstore project, a new standard for signing, verifying and protecting software.

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In episode 19 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell speaks with Rick Spencer about InfluxData, developer of InfluxDB. Rick unpacks his career journey and explains how InfluxData uses Kubernetes and other CNCF projects from an end-user perspective.

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In episode 18 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with Miguel Ángel Ajo and Stephen Kitt of Red Hat. They discuss the CNCF sandbox project Submariner and how it’s solving multi-cluster networking.

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In episode 17 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell and Benjie De Groot are joined by Keith Basil of SUSE. They explore K3s, the certified Kubernetes distribution built for IoT & Edge computing, and how it removes the cognitive overload of standing up Kubernetes.

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In episode 16 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Josh Dolitsky of Blood Orange about Open Container Initiative. They also discuss working with containers, Josh’s introduction to Kubernetes, and the importance of nurturing a diverse community.

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In episode 15 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Evan Cordell of Red Hat. They discuss the inception and roadmap of the CNCF incubating project Operator Framework, as well as insights on deploying and managing Operators in your cluster.

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In episode 14 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Jim Bugwadia and Ritesh Patel of Nirmata. They discuss the history and community behind Kyverno, a policy engine designed for Kubernetes and a recent CNCF Sandbox project.

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In episode 13 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc is joined by Tzury Bar Yochay and Justin Dorfman of Reblaze. They discuss the latest CNCF Sandbox project Curiefense, its community and product architecture.

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In episode 12 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Craig Box of Google Cloud. They discuss Istio’s features and community, the purpose of service meshes, and solving big problems at the platform level.

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In episode 11 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Lee Mills and Matt Clarke of Spotify. They discuss the origins and the roadmap of the CNCF project Backstage, and unpack the complexities of building developer portals.

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In episode 10 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc is joined by Daniel Mangum of Upbound. They discuss the CNCF Sandbox project Crossplane, deploying Postgres databases, and The Linux Foundation’s Mentorship Programs.

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In episode 9 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell speaks with Dan “Pop” Papandrea of Sysdig. They discuss Pop’s experience as a CNCF ambassador, the incubating project Falco, and the importance of runtime monitoring for security.

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In episode 8 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell speaks with Richard Li of Ambassador Labs about the development and testing tool Telepresence, as well as the problems developers encounter when adopting Kubernetes.

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In episode 7 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc joins Andreas Grabner of Dynatrace to discuss the continuous delivery control plane Keptn, performance-driven engineering, and the problem with monolithic pipelines.

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In episode 6 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with William Morgan of Buoyant. They discuss the complex service mesh ecosystem, as well as the origin and roadmap of Linkerd.

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In episode 5 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell is joined by Michael Bridgen of Weaveworks. They unpack Flux, the GitOps operator for Kubernetes, as well as GitOps adoption and progressive delivery.

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In episode 4 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Sunil James of Hewlett Packard Enterprise. They discuss the SPIFFE and SPIRE projects, focusing on identity control for distributed systems.

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In episode 3 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc Campbell speaks with Ben Sigelman of LightStep. They discuss the inspiration and origin story behind OpenTelemetry, the challenges of observability, and the path from sandbox to incubation.

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In episode 2 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc speaks with Mukulika Kapas of Intuit. They discuss The Argo Project, getting started with GitOps, and managing clusters at scale.

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In this inaugural episode of The Kubelist Podcast, host Marc Campbell of Replicated speaks with Uma Mukkara of MayaData. They explore the tooling and best practices for adopting chaos engineering, as well as MayaData’s founding story and multi-project roadmap.

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